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CHAPTER FIVE

 The Woman In The Wilderness

Introduction

Chapter Twelve of the Book of Revelation can be quite confusing. I don't purport to have all the answers to all the questions asked of this Chapter, however, I hope I can shed some light upon some of the questions you might have and possibly clear up some of the misunderstandings concerning it.

Who is this woman spoken of here? Does she represent the nation of Israel, the Jews, or the church? Volumes have been written hoping to answer these questions, and differences of opinion abound. Of these differences of opinions, only one can be right. I believe the truth to the answer of the question, "Who Does the Woman Represent?", can be found contained in the chapter itself, upon thorough investigation. I also believe the answer to this question is far more important than simply finding the truth of it. For the knowledge of the truth shall set you free, indeed. As with all the rest of the unanswered questions one might have concerning Scripture, when they are uncovered, the whole picture becomes much clearer. I'm not the only one that perhaps that arrives at a similar conclusion, concerning the woman mentioned in Revelation 12:1 1.

The entire understanding of Chapter 12 of Revelation cannot possibly be achieved without first of all, realizing to whom this woman represents. Clear this matter up, and the rest will fall into place without any contradictions.

Just as a child is not formed when it is born, neither is the man-child spoken of in Revelation Chapter 12. The child is formed in the womb first, then born into the world.

There will come a day when from within the prayers of the church in heaven and in the earth there shall be a birth. A birth of the man-child. Yah promises us, in his word, that this day will come. Just as this child grows and forms in the womb, of travail, it will one day be birthed in the earth.


The Woman in Heaven

"And there appeared a great wonder in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and upon her head a crown of twelve stars:

 

And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered." Revelation 12: 1, 2

I believe the problem of understanding to whom this woman represents, and to whom the child she gives birth to, arises when we don't pay close attention to the text at hand, but allow our knowledge of other's doctrines concerning it, to enter in and choke the clear truth.

Misunderstanding first enters in here when "we think this woman represents someone or a group of persons on Earth, that gives birth to someone else or another group of people on earth."

The first verse above sets the stage for the rest of this chapter, "And there appeared a great wonder in heaven..." This wonder is in heaven, not on Earth! Then the verse continues "...in heaven; a woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet and upon her head a crown of twelve stars."

This woman (in heaven) is clothed with the sun. All Christians should know that they are clothed in the righteousness of Yahshua/Jesus Christ, and not clothed in their own righteousness. Malachi describes Yahshua as the Sun of righteousness.

"But unto you that fear my name shall the Sun of righteousness arise with healing in his wings; and ye shall go forth and grow up as calves of the staff." Malachi 4:2

Who is this woman in heaven? It is the church in heaven. Those Christians that believed in the Lord Yahshua who have died and gone on to be with their Lord in heaven. They are clothed with the Sun, and the moon is under their feet. Is it under yours? No! The earth is under our feet. And a crown of twelve stars are upon their heads. I believe this represents the "twelve apostles".

Any bible student knows that the word "star" can and does in many cases represent "angels" or messengers. I believe that the "twelve apostles" were certainly messengers of the gospel of Yahshua. Don't you? Are there only twelve stars in heaven? No! There are billions. The twelve apostles are in heaven.

Also, we know that believers (the true Church) are called the "bride of Christ" and that Yahshua is the husband of that bride. The wedding has not yet taken place, but that does not take away the fact that we are called his bride. Then that being the case, are those that have died and left this earth to be with Yahshua in heaven, his bride? Of course they are! Are we that yet live on the earth that believe in him, his bride? Of course we are! Is a bride a woman? Of course it is. "So what is your point, you might ask."

The point is that the woman which represents the "bride of Christ" consists of two groups; those that are in heaven, and those that Yahshua will return for, -"a glorious bride, a glorious church without spot nor wrinkle, nor blemish, one holy or set apart for his use- that are on the Earth". The Woman (The Bride of Christ) is in heaven and on the Earth.

"Having made known unto us the mystery of his will, according to his good pleasure which he hath purposed in himself:

That in the dispensation of the fullness of times 1 he might gather
together in one all things in Christ, both which are in heaven, and which are on earth; in him." Ephesians. 1:9, 10

Yahshua will gather together his bride. The woman (his bride) in heaven, and the woman (his bride) on earth, at the dispensation of the fullness of times (Ephesians. 1:10) when there shall be time no longer (Revelation 10:6), the mystery of God's will [both Revelation 10:6 and Ephesians. 1:9 above] should be finished as he declared to his servants the prophets (there being John in Revelation 10:7 and Paul in Ephesians. 1:9, 10).

Yes, my friend, there are two women. One woman is his bride in heaven, and the other woman he will return for, gathering together both in one all things in Him. Then the "marriage of the Lamb will be complete". His bride shall be gathered together as one, and he shall be joined together with it at the "marriage of the Lamb".

But for now, only the woman in heaven exists! Part of his bride is in heaven at the moment, and this woman is travailing to give birth, to the woman in the earth and Revelation 12 speaks of this birth. When and who is revealed?

"And she being with child cried, travailing in birth, and pained to be delivered." Revelation 12:2

"And she (the woman in heaven 2) brought forth a man-child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne." Revelation 12:5

The prophet and apostle Paul knows of this travail and what it consists of. "My little children, of whom I travail in birth again until Christ be formed in you." Galatians 4:19

Paul is not saying that he is physically pregnant. Neither is the woman in heaven physically pregnant, to give birth to Christians and send them to earth.

The woman (the saints in heaven, to which Paul is now one) are praying and "spiritually travailing in birth" that Christ be formed in those Christians in the earth.

When you became a child of Yah by accepting Yahshua as your Lord and Savior, Christ is not formed in you. It is a process by which you put off the old man and his sinful desires, and walk in the newness of life, as you allow the Holy Spirit to form Christ in you (your mind will and emotions), until you walk in his fullness. Many do not achieve this, but nevertheless, upon death, heaven awaits them. You are his, Yahshua’s bride with him in heaven, awaiting the marriage at the appointed time.

But as we shall see, Yahshua will return in the heavens with his saints (heavenly bride) to catch up his earthly saints (earthly bride), that must be without sin (any spot, wrinkle, or blemish). Is this possible to be without sin? Many would teach that it is impossible and have made the apostle Paul a liar!1


Enter the Dragon in Heaven

In verse 1 and 2 of Revelation 12, we saw the woman in heaven who was travailing in pain to be delivered of this child.

Now in verse 3, we see another wonder and it is also in heaven.

"And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great red dragon, having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

And his tail drew the third part of the stars of heaven, and did cast them to the earth: and the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born." Revelation 12: 1-3

There are several things to note here in these two scripture verses. First of all, as we have noted this wonder is in heaven. The dragon is also seen in heaven, not in the earth.

Secondly, the tail of the dragon, who is Satan, and we know this because verse 9 divulges him as such, draws the third part of the stars of heaven and casts them to the earth. Again, these are not physical stars, but Satan's angelic host, his messengers, the demons, or more correctly, fallen angels that follow him. Satan sends all angels which one third belong to him to the earth and they are messengers of a "false or another gospel".

Please note that these fallen angels (stars or messengers of Satan) are drawn to the earth and not into the earth. There is a difference. Let's say a house has a door to it. Someone can go to the door of the house. They have not gone in the house. But if someone goes into the door, they have entered the house. These stars or messengers of Satan have been drawn by Satan to the earth, not into it. That comes later. They are at this point still in the heavens, or outside earth.

Thirdly, these fallen angels along with the dragon or Satan, are standing before the woman who is in heaven, to devour her child as soon as it was born. What I want you to see here, is the word before and understand its meaning here. It is critical to a clear understanding of the woman. I, for many years, believed that the dragon was standing over (before) the woman ready to devour her child when she delivered it. In the natural, one would assume this, and could picture this in their mind.

But the truth of the matter is that the word before(1799) in the original Greek means - in the face of; before, in the presence (sight) of..

Satan is not looking or standing over the woman to devour her child, but he is in the sight, in the face of the woman. The woman, remember, is in heaven where God is. She is looking down at Satan and his demons who are at the earth. They are before her face. She can see them from her vantage point. They are between her and the earth, to where the other woman (child) will be born.

But what other woman, may be your response? The other woman disclosed in verse 6. We'll get to her in a moment. Just bear with me.

The child is to be born in the earth, not in heaven. All of those in heaven, including Paul, as well as saints in the earth, are praying and travailing that Christ be formed in those believers in the earth. Satan and his demons have come to the earth to devour the child, and they are before or in the sight of the woman (the bride) in heaven. I hope you can now visualize this. Now, let's move to the next verse.


The Woman in the Earth

"And she (the bride of Christ in heaven 1) brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron: and her child was caught up unto God, and to his throne.

And the woman fled into the wilderness, where she hath a place prepared of God, that they should feed her there a thousand two hundred and threescore days (1,260 days or 42 months or 3-1/2 years2)." Revelation 12:5, 6

The man-child is born. Many translations render this the male child. Also many believe this verse is speaking about Yahshua, because he was a male child and he was caught up into heaven. This is true of Yahshua, but these verses are not speaking of him in that regard. We'll refute all that in the next chapter, but what I want you to clearly see right now, is the woman that fled into the wilderness.

The woman that fled into the wilderness is the man or male child. It is not the woman in heaven that through travailing gave birth. This fundamental truth must be realized in order to understand the rest of the chapter as well as all of the Book of Revelation. A bold and gargantuan statement, but nonetheless true.

Why would the woman in heaven, flee into the wilderness, where Yah would feed her for 3 ½ years. She is already in heaven, and I don't believe there is a wilderness there. Neither do I believe she hath need of a particular place that Yah can feed her, and why for only 3 ½ years? Furthermore, in verse 14, this same woman is hid from the face of the serpent, Satan. The woman in heaven, Yah's bride, need not be hid from the face of the serpent, she already is. Satan can't harm those with Yah that are in heaven.

The truth of who this woman is that fled into the wilderness, should be obvious now. As stated, she is not the woman in heaven. She is the woman that was birthed, that "bride of Christ" in the earth that he will return for that is without spot, or blemish or any such thing; perfect, mature and set apart (sanctified) holy for his use for 3 ½ years. The "bride of Christ on earth" is the woman born as the man-child. Wherever the woman is mentioned beginning in verse 6 through the rest of chapter twelve, is referring to the man-child that was born from the woman in the Earth, not the woman in heaven.

As I mentioned earlier, we now have a woman in heaven (part of his bride) and the woman in the earth (the other part of his bride), this man-child that will be caught up into heaven, and together they are His one and only Bride.

Now to summarize all that has been said so far is needed, I believe.

Just as the apostle Paul travailed, so that Christ would be formed in the Church, and as the Church in heaven (the woman, verse 2, 5) travailed in pain, so too are there many in the Church in the earth travailing in birth that Christ be formed in them. They want to please Yah and do only his will.

Nothing is more important to them, and their actions (works) prove it. They walk in the Spirit and do not fulfill the lusts of the flesh. They have allowed Yah to tame their tongues. They will eventually lay down their lives and die for Yahshua in the end.

The birth is within. It is Christ being formed in those that are already his. Through their own travailing, and that of others, Christ is now formed in them, just as Paul prayed and travailed during his day. This forming of Christ in them (the portion of the church on earth that is travailing) constitutes their being this man-child that is birthed. The woman in the earth is synonymous with the man-child.

"And she (the part of the spiritual seed of Abraham; the church 1) brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron; and her child (the church's seed) was caught up unto God, and to his throne." Revelation 12:5

The part of the church, on earth (is the woman) through its own travail and the travail of others has had the Lord formed in them and this birth is called the birth of the man-child. Not all of the church, unfortunately, will have travailed or experienced the pain it takes to produce the life of Yahshua in them. The world and the lusts thereof are more important to them than doing the will of their Father. Just as Yahshua said who his real mother was, these men and women of faith strove and endeared to be a mother of Christ. A woman that gave birth to the life of Christ. Christ formed in them, that Christ through his body would perform the will of His Father.

"But (Jesus) he answered and said unto him that told him, Who is my mother? and who are my brethren?

And he stretched forth his hand toward his disciples, and said, Behold my mother and my brethren!

For whosoever shall do the will of my Father which is in heaven, the same is my brother, and sister and mother." Matthew 12:48-50

Can you see that the Lord teaches that a mother is one that does the will of His Father? Is there any doubt that a mother is a woman? Could this be the mother (woman) that gives birth in Revelation 12:5, that are the ones doing the will of their Father in heaven? Could they be this mother?

I believe the answer is overwhelming, yes.. I believe without a doubt that the woman is the mother who does the Father's will, which is the same as allowing Christ to be formed in you, and when he is formed in you, you will have birthed within yourself, this man-child spoken of in Revelation 12:5, having the life and will of Yahshua the Christ.


Enter The Dragon in The Earth

So what we have so far, is the man-child being born from within the church. This man-child is also the woman or the mother that has allowed Christ to be formed in them. She (the woman) now flees into the wilderness where Yah has prepared a place for her for 3 ½ years (Revelation 12:5, 6).

Also, at this time, there is a war in the heavenlies and the Devil (Satan) is cast into the earth.

"And there was a war in heaven. Michael and his angels fought against the dragon, and the dragon fought and his angels,

And prevailed not; neither was their place found anymore in heaven.

And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world; he was cast out unto the earth, and his angels were cast out with him." Revelation 12:7-9

The Book of Daniel also speaks of this exact time frame, of 3-1/2 years, that the woman (man-child) is safe for 3-1/2 years.

"And at that time shall Michael (the same Michael spoken of in Revelation 12:7) stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation even to that same time: and at that time (Jacob's trouble) thy people shall be delivered 1, every one that shall be found written in the book (book of life)". Daniel 12:12

Both Daniel 12:12 and Revelation 12:7-9 speaks of this event in which Michael, the archangel and the Devil and his fallen angels fight in the heavens (outer space) and the Devil and his cohorts are now cast "into the earth". They can now no longer operate in the heavenlies (outer space) but are now confined to the earth only.  The next several verses in Daniel 12 go on to tell us how long the duration of time after Satan is thrown into the earth, which shall be 3 ½ years (Daniel 12:7), and Revelation 12:6, 14 identifies 3 ½ years to be the time the woman is kept safe.

Also, Revelation 11:3 similarly identifies the duration of the ministry of the two witnesses as 3 ½ years (1,260 days), as well as the beast given power over the world for 3 ½ years in Revelation 13:5. Is all of this a coincidence? No. The same 3 ½ years spoken in each of these verses depict the one and the same time frame in the affairs of men. Not several 3 ½ year periods, but one, of which all these events depicted are included in that one 3 ½ year period spoken of.

Verses 7-9 of Revelation 12, spoke of the war in heaven and Satan's subsequent casting out of heaven with his angels into the earth. Let's continue with those verses.

"And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our God, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our God day and night.

And they (the brethren) overcame him by the blood of the Lamb, and by the word of their testimony 1; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down to you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

And when the dragon saw that he was cast unto the earth, he persecuted (pursued 2) the woman which brought forth the man child." Revelation 12:10-13

We know that before the Devil was cast into the Earth permanently for 3 ½ years, that he operated both in the earth and in the heavens (outer space).

"Now there was a day when the sons of God (referred to as angels in the Old Testament 3) came to present themselves before the Lord, and Satan came also among them.

And the Lord said unto Satan, Whence comest thou? Then Satan answered the Lord, and said, From going to and fro in the earth, and from walking up and down in it." Job 1:6, 7

But now, for the last 3-1/2 years, he and his following angels are cast into the earth and cannot operate in outer space (the heavens) and he has great wrath and begins to pursue the woman (the man-child) which brought forth from within herself the man-child (Revelation 12:13).


Woman Not Israel

Many teach that the woman in Revelation 12 is the nation of Israel or the Jews. I believe their assessment is incorrect for reasons I will state.

First of all, the woman in Revelation 12:1 being with child is described as a "wonder in heaven". The nation of Israel is on earth, not in heaven, nor are Jews unless they believed in our Lord Yahshua, and have died and gone to heaven to be with him. As mentioned early on in this chapter, this woman is the church in heaven.

Secondly in Revelation 12:17, the dragon is wroth with the woman and went to make war with the remnant of her (the woman's 1) seed, which keep the commandments of Yah, and have the testimony of Yahshua.

The remnant of her seed have the testimony of Yahshua. The remnant of her seed are Christians, not the earthly nation of Israel or physical Jews only.

The Bible tells us that any kind produces like kind. Fish produce fish, birds produce birds, man produces man. If the remnant of the woman's seed are Christians then the woman who has seed must be a Christian. Judaism did not produce Christians. Christ did!

Also, Yah is no respecter of persons. If the woman represents Jews that are not Christians, then why would Yah keep them safe from the Devil and not everyone else? The answer is he will not. Yah is only partial to his own. His sons. Christians. Not natural Jews or anyone else. Their lot in the end is the same.

The woman that flees into the wilderness is the "bride of Christ" i.e. the manchild that he will return for immediately preceding Armageddon earlier in the day and then return with them later in the day as he removes the wicked (unbelievers in him as Savior and Lord) from the earth and sets up his kingdom without end, as HE will be the government in the earth.


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